{"id":276,"date":"2011-04-06T01:11:14","date_gmt":"2011-04-06T01:11:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/?p=276"},"modified":"2013-05-15T01:17:29","modified_gmt":"2013-05-15T01:17:29","slug":"interesting-facts-and-opinions-about-japanese-and-greek-mythology","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/2011\/04\/interesting-facts-and-opinions-about-japanese-and-greek-mythology\/","title":{"rendered":"Interesting facts and opinions about Japanese and Greek mythology"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_277\" style=\"width: 213px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/\u7121\u984c.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-277\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-277\" title=\"Amaterasu\" src=\"http:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/\u7121\u984c.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"203\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/\u7121\u984c.jpg 338w, https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/\u7121\u984c-233x300.jpg 233w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-277\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u30a2\u30de\u30c6\u30e9\u30b9\u69d8<\/p><\/div>\n<p>All facts from \u300c\u65e5\u672c\u795e\u8a71\u3068\u30ae\u30ea\u30b7\u30a2\u795e\u8a71\u300d <em>Japanese and Greek Myth<\/em> by \u5927\u8107\u7531\u7d00\u5b50 \u014cwaki Yukiko \uff08\u660e\u6cbb\u66f8\u9662\u3001\uff12\uff10\uff11\uff10\uff09. All opinions are mine.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Fact: Japanese did not have a word for &#8220;myth&#8221; until Basil Hall Chamberlain invented one in 1887.\u00a0What they instead had was an <em>official history<\/em> that ranged from cosmic to national in nature. Not even those skeptical of that history borrowed the word &#8220;myth&#8221; from English; it took a foreigner to do that.<\/li>\n<li>Opinion: It is thus only natural to wonder, what is the meaning-function of the word &#8220;myth&#8221;, and why was it not invented in Japanese?\u00a0In this book, one of the figures mentioned is Empress Consort\u00a0Iwanohime, simply because she is mentioned in the official histories <em>Nihonshoki <\/em>and <em>Kojiki<\/em>. Her life has no supernatural aspect to it.<\/li>\n<li>Opinion:\u00a0Japanese Wikipedia suggests the word \u795e\u8a9e\uff08\u308a\uff09\u00a0<em>kangatari<\/em> was used to refer to myths in the Middle Ages, but a check of academic literature shows that it actually referred to <em>recited poetry<\/em>, five examples of which can be found\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/homepage1.nifty.com\/miuras-tiger\/jyoji-jyo.html\">here<\/a>. Also, the true reading appears to be\u00a0<em>kamugatari<\/em>.\u00a0In ancient Greece, indeed, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/%CE%BC%E1%BF%A6%CE%B8%CE%BF%CF%82\">mythos<\/a>&#8221; was a term used for any recitation. Perhaps our use of the word &#8220;myth&#8221; is at its very heart a misunderstanding.<\/li>\n<li>Fact: The author makes a fascinating comparison between\u00a0Iwanohime and Hera: both individuals were said to have intense jealousy\u00a0directed not only at their closest relations but at other individuals who associated with them.<\/li>\n<li>Opinion: Certainly Iwanohime&#8217;s jealousy could have served as a cultural standard in the same way that Hera&#8217;s jealousy\u00a0did in Greece. It is fascinating to imagine in this way the world that the writers of <em>Nihonshoki <\/em>and <em>Kojiki <\/em>may have lived in. But does that mean Iwanohime was a &#8220;mythical&#8221; figure, or a god, in the same way that Amaterasu&#8217;s story can be\u00a0pigeonholed\u00a0as myth? Perhaps it is better to view these figures in the same way the Japanese did: as characters in the official history.<\/li>\n<li>Fact: The exiled hero Yamatotakeru is shown as wandering <a href=\"http:\/\/hashibee.blog39.fc2.com\/blog-entry-482.html\">all <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/hashibee.blog39.fc2.com\/blog-entry-483.html\">over <\/a>Japan, much like Odysseus, except that the Odyssey doesn&#8217;t fall into the category of &#8220;myth&#8221; in this book for some reason&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>Opinion: In this book kami is defined as &#8220;a word encompassing beings with incorporeal power beyond human knowledge.&#8221; Aliens??<\/li>\n<li>Opinion: I bought this book to learn the full extent of parallels between Japanese and Greek mythology, but it seems like most elements can be dismissed as coincidence. The most confounding parallel is the one any student of mythology should know: the Greek story of the rape of Persephone is <em>extremely<\/em> similar to the Japanese story of Izanami&#8217;s death.<\/li>\n<li>Fact: When discussing this, the book quotes from\u00a0<em>Spirited Away<\/em> (remember Chihiro starting to disappear and eating the food?). Mayhaps Ghibli movies are a better re-presentation of Japanese mythology than anything I could hope to write myself.<\/li>\n<li>Fact: But the book references <em>Naruto<\/em> as well&#8230;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All facts from \u300c\u65e5\u672c\u795e\u8a71\u3068\u30ae\u30ea\u30b7\u30a2\u795e\u8a71\u300d Japanese and Greek Myth by \u5927\u8107\u7531\u7d00\u5b50 \u014cwaki Yukiko \uff08\u660e\u6cbb\u66f8\u9662\u3001\uff12\uff10\uff11\uff10\uff09. All opinions are mine. Fact: Japanese did not have a word for &#8220;myth&#8221; until Basil Hall Chamberlain invented one in 1887.\u00a0What they instead had was an official history that ranged from cosmic to national in nature. Not even those skeptical of that [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[8,6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/276"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=276"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/276\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1480,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/276\/revisions\/1480"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=276"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=276"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/avery.morrow.name\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=276"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}